What I will try to do is use my social science education and research methodology expertise to try to bring some clarity into how all of the variables in these cases seem to be connected. If there already was a history of people getting lost or being found dead hundreds of years ago, maybe there always were hunting grounds of local predators, maybe there always was a settlement of local wild men, or maybe something about the natural environment itself was always potentially deadly to visitors. Usually, the tragic stories are about mushroom poisoning. This one is of course extremely tragic, but that only gives you literally all of the reasons why everyone should study this. With the emphasis on may. The potentially unusual elements connected to this profile point are the speed at which someone got lost after they got out of sight, which sometimes appears to be downwards of a minute, and the instances that seem to indicate that some luring or messing with ones mental or physical state took place. Which makes you think what could have happened to those who were not returned. This is why it seems very suspicious to me that in Missing 411 cases, the majority of people who are found alive have amnesia and only a minority reports something strange happening. How do you keep getting bodies into water without it being seen, ever? The mysterious part is how the bodies got to where they were found. Occams razor therefore says foul play. While the possibility of pure fear killing a person is medically speaking speculative at best, extreme fear can certainly cause a lethal heart attack in a person with a heart that is in a less than stellar condition. This type of account would go some way toward explaining the seemingly missing failure rate of the perpetrators, as these would be the cases where the predators let the captured prey go, or when their traps, even though advanced, failed. The comparison actually needs to be made between the Missing 411 sample and whats normal for national park visitors in general, as well as it needs to be made between the Missing 411 sample and a control sample of non-Missing 411 missing people, ideally controlled by location (park vs. rural vs. urban). This is perhaps the main area in which I would like Dave to release tables with exact percentages of just how common various traits among the missing people are, as the first step that needs to be taken in any serious study is to compare the composition of Daves sample with the standard distributions of variables in the normal demographics of the involved states or countries. If a person disappeared from a place like a pub, then the perpetrators were either lying in wait on the location, possibly cooperating with whoever is operating the establishment, or they were again following the target person beforehand and waited for him to go to a social event. Naturally, without any explanation as to how he got there. There is mounting evidence that states of mind affect probability of external events, making it fluctuate. Granted, Elisa Lam is a rare name, so its a case of a rare name of a test that is the same as a human name, which was the same as a rare name of a person who died unusually, while the test was being used at the time and place where they died. This means that nothing should be taken at face value and that it may be necessary to keep our cards close to the chest not advertising our best leads or next moves, while trying to set up traps for the adversary. Like the Missing 411 cases. Given that this is perhaps the most consistent profile point, it could be a key one, but there are some nuanced considerations that should be made. This would also explain why it happens in only some cities you cant simply improvise it anywhere without having the infrastructure. Im not a physicist, chemist, or an engineer, so I cant begin to speculate about any special properties of water or granite, though electrical ones certainly dont seem to be off the table. This dense forest is where three Roman Legions were massacred by Germanic tribes in 9 A.D. It is a significant step forward in the understanding of the missing phenomena that adds several new elements never before identified. If the person was seen, say, falling of a cliff, then that would be an explanation, just like it should be easier to find someone when youd seen where exactly they entered the forest, at what speed, and in what state of mind. Hunters have been disappearing from North American wildlands for hundreds of years, many without leaving a trace. The only conventional explanation for reliable amnesia is when it is induced by some sort of chemical. I certainly intend to investigate this phenomenon further, as well as a range of other things that I may write about in the future. Given that the smallest useful sample is about 100 people, it would have to be for a whole U.S. state at least, or for all national parks in a country, since the largest cluster in the Yosemite is currently in the 50s, I believe. The hard evidence found here indicates that many of these people must have died on land days after they disappeared, but days before they entered water, or that they must have died in a tumbling stream, when they were found in a pond with no flowing water, etc. Id wager that afternoon is the time during which forests see the highest levels of traffic. Somebody must have done their research and observed their daily routine for some time. In the last act, a twist no one saw . NR. Think of reading a missing persons newspaper section with key adjectives sprinkled in. Thats why it is so important to not ignore this data, but instead compile it and look for discrepancies between the normal distribution and Missing 411 distribution of times and dates of disappearances on a large enough sample that will therefore give it sufficient statistical significance and reliability. We cant, not really, which is why this trick would be used by higher intelligences. The reason why amnesia always seems contrived in TV shows and movies when used more than minimally is that it is rare in real life. David Paulides presents the haunting true stories of hunters experiencing the unexplainable in the woods of North America. The question is not so much whether someone can have or be using such technology, since the recent sonic attacks at U.S. embassies across the world prove that the capability exists. There is some possibility, given the erratic and illogical behavior of some of the people who testified to what happened to them, that either a mental breakdown, or some sort of suggestion, hypnosis, or mind control technology are to blame. Maybe there are more younger and older people visiting the parks in general, maybe its more of a white or specifically German cultural thing in general, maybe people with disabilities, geniuses, or athletes should be over-represented. Without that, theres no point in speculating any further. If we can already think of that, and undoubtedly would do it ourselves given the opportunity, its not crazy. David Paulides presents the haunting true stories of hunters experiencing the unexplainable in the woods of North America. gryff42. Not many things need to be the same for all or most unexplained cases, and they will be objective facts. Thats what Dave was doing regarding Bigfoot. However, this only calls for a more thorough screening process for the cases to control for these possibilities. Especially in the one case when the phone was later found shattered into a million pieces. My critical point of view is that this is a nice sentiment, and youd want to have searchers with this attitude looking for you, but there is a number of conceivable conventional scenarios in which it would be very possible that the person would be exceedingly difficult to find or unlikely to be found. Or Spock. If there is evidence that something weird was going on with the dog, thats the part that should be focused on, in my opinion presence of inexplicable evidence is always more interesting than a correlation alone. Dogs arent machines, which inevitably means they must have some sort of rate of error, some better and worse days, while scent can be affected by environmental conditions. Obviously, bad weather happening while a person is lost should also mean higher chance of them dying of exposure, but also limit the distance that the lost person can travel. should be considered irrelevant in the absence of additional inexplicable positive evidence. Then again, at this point, its not much more than entertaining fiction. If I sum it all up: This about covers what I would like to say about this subject at this moment in time. Nazis were in fact spectacularly wrong about the Arian race, especially in the sense that the Germans are it (theyre not) or that theyre exceptional (not by any objective metric). The religion and military connection may also be connected to a specific cultural grudge, but what they imply to me is that maybe any targeting would be more of an issue of neurology rather than genetics. But still, even assuming that theyre intentional omissions and not just Dave not knowing a fact or Dave keeping a fact to himself in the interest of the family of the victim, its very human. The question is why would there be high-tech kidnappers, possibly using also advanced camouflage or noise cancellation technology, snatching random people sneakily in the forests. On this count, I would very much like Dave to publish exact tables showing how significant (meaning frequent) each of the correlating factors is in the Missing 411 sample of cases, ideally in comparison to tables of what is normal for a representative sample of normal missing persons cases. And yes, I also rewatched Dirk Gentlys Holistic Detective Agency, obviously. The cases of inside-out clothing in particular remind me of one potential UFO abduction case of Zigmund Adamski, which happened on the 6th of June 1980 in the U.K. Especially if youre an expert with answers. What I can speculate on is why any type of perpetrator would have an operational range centered around large bodies of water or rock formations, or national forests and parks for that matter. This is one of the profile points that may have a completely mundane explanation, which could be proven. Its unlikely that all such witnesses could be successfully bribed or threatened with all of the impromptu recordings being destroyed. Thats probably why it correlates so much with cases that remain unexplained. Paulides has written a series of books under the title, "Missing 411." the books detail hundreds of these cases and locations. This type of research is frequently used in not only social science in order to formulate hypotheses, or in this case a criminal profile. It has many of the Missing 411 hallmarks Adamski disappeared while on a walk and was last seen in the afternoon, only to turn up five days later, dead, on top of a coal pile located in a town twenty miles away. This is a tough one because on one hand, I would like to believe Dave that trackers are by and large good enough to always find things like signs of struggle, but on the other hand, no one is perfect. For the profile point, it means that more weight should be given to cases where the disappearance after separation was abrupt, but also that the feeling unwell or the wildly running into a forest-type separations should be looked at separately. The stories about bigfoot tend to paint them as forest protectors, who would only hurt you if you seriously piss them off or attack and corner them, while dogmen seem to be out to hunt or scare us. And even then, there often still should have been enough time to use the phone to report or record what happened.