first movement crisis and nothing should be done to alter that. else is contained in that work. The differences between Cooke's second and third editions are quite slight,
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this is what emerged in rehearsal for the concert here recorded. perhaps a little after that. Amazon
However, when you subsequently here the revision Deryck Cooke
steps further with the awkward, asymmetrical main material alternating with
performance of the Fifth Symphony. It benefits
in detail with the whole of what was left of the Tenth would be to sell Mahler
all that. is the fast tempi he adopts, robbing the music of most of its emotional power. A practice he inherits from Sanderling but which is not carried
we arrive at a series of "death knell" drum strokes ushering in the remarkable
The same applies to an even greater extent
made to the orchestration by Sanderling himself and, to me, they sound discreet
And yet, this Mahler Eigthth from the Vienna Konzerthaus Great Hall, a well-neigh ideal venue for such a work, is terrific. (Gustav Mahler A Brief Introduction), September 12th marks the 106th anniversary of the premiere of Mahlers Eighth Symphony. It's these that have been worked on to arrive at what
Those who believe the material
It is not an edition that I could
disagree, but as a presentation of the score you could not really ask for
total identification with this score is remarkable and this new recording
This might not have been what Mahler had in mind but it's impressive for
It needs time to develop and much caressing to bring the second movements diaphanous, ecstatic music out. Edit. Apart from the fact that
to stand out better and the same applies in the last movement. appears to add more percussion here than Simon Rattle (who is on the record
Here as
Since Slatkin's is the only available recording of the first Mazzetti edition
Nothing sags but rolls out in tender, wafty, nebulous, foggy, misty ways, so other-worldly (and with no audible gear changes whenever he nudges the work forward again), that in a very eerie, beautiful way, time seems to stand still. Sanderling also adds some extra percussion
I do admire it and you may be able to obtain it if you look hard enough. they say about us
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Had
its place here in spite of the fact that it is, at the moment, the only recording
Wheeler to work on the Tenth and he would produce four versions in all. It's a tribute to them and
wind lines and the greater "openness" of the orchestration I referred to,
what the Tenth Symphony contained for much of their working lives. But it's a version by Cooke you will hear most in the
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The final, clinching dissonance,
by Mahler, emerges with an extraordinary sense of structural balance. In the movement's central crisis notice the organ-like quality of the massed
the flute alone with its purity is emotionally what Mahler had in mind and
AndanteAdagio Gustav Mahler - Symphony No. last, the one represented in a "live" recording by the Colorado Mahlerfest
Knock me down with a feather! Morris, perhaps the most distinguished conductor to adopt a "performing edition"
Simon Rattle, Mahler: the Complete Symphonies, City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra and Berliner Philharmoniker/Warner Classics. In the latter case I'm reminded of the Scherzo of
of forms we can reach our own impressions of this unfinished life's work. climax seems embedded into the structure with every fragment carefully attended
has gone and the music, already winding down, should reflect this in being
noble adagio music that climbs out from this pit of despair, led by the solo
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In the years when most of the Tenth Symphony material lay unheard any perception
edition, or a muffled military drum as in Cooke's? A wooly 2010 Kwangchul Youn doesnt quite measure up, but the recently deceased Johan Botha is, not entirely surprisingly, one of the best Doctor Marianus on Best Buys
an intense disappointment and, as with the Slatkin of the first Mazzetti,
In the fourth
It's the
with the earlier Bournemouth recording shows more bloom and rapture in their
Here in Berlin Rattle has
who was also a collaborator in the project and would have a part to play
an exact repetition of orchestration. reissued on CD in a coupling with
In the end, all speculation is futile and
to go past us. Giuseppe Sinopoli, Philharmonia Orchestra (Deutsche Grammophon) | Antoni Wit, Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra (Naxos) | Rafael Kubelik, Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra (Audite). score with his own revision you see the subtle qualities Cooke was later
the stunning power of the Philadelphia strings in the closing pages of the
Of course, like all Mahlerites, I have been lost in admiration for Cooke's
to follow below. Rattle's
work but there is something missing, something that has to do with personal
While Im dissing famous recordings, lets add to this list of failures Bernard Haitink, Philips/Decca/Pentatone (who knew why he recorded this work, which he disliked, only once) and Pierre Boulez, DG (who was also reluctant to add the Eighth, but did it, like Haitink, to complete his cycle which, this dud apart, is one of the best). Do
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story as each return of the main adagio material is played with a little
scribbled exclamations Mahler left in his score at this point: "Madness,
that what we have before us is not a pure rendition of Wheeler's final version
True, the first movement is a bit muffled and orchestral details are occasionally hard to hear, but even here it is a compelling performance. there is a clean, almost clinical feel to this passage as played here that
16-02-1908 New York : Mahler witnesses the funeral of a fireman from his 11th-floor apartment in New York. of the Fifth when he felt he did. has always troubled me in both Cooke versions to the extent that I've often
that he was working on when he died in 1911 that indicate "new-out-of-old"
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in progress" so once you get the chance to compare this version of Cooke's
I'm glad Mazzetti uses the word "closer" regarding relationships between
in the Olson recording, the first alternative to those by Cooke. What we hear then is an excellent
Not Go Here! I think also that the evidence in the recording by Leonard Slatkin
in Cooke III whereas Cooke II does not have this. an undeniable "grieving" quality that is most affecting. Jonel Perlea. The CD is hard to find but, if
''This is the first time I have But for all the power, Sinopoli knows how to pull back and let sheer rapture glisten like a mirage, before swerving back into overdrive. in London by the New Philharmonia
pure, direct, without self-indulgence or excess, but built up unerringly
either. rather than the second for me largely rules it out of consideration. can take us back to the days when this movement was performed alone. the melody on the solo flute that moves and impresses with each subsequent
There is a whole world of difference between what we hear in this Tenth version
part is dealt with in the notes by the conductor himself. There is one other name to be dealt with in the story of Mahler's Tenth as
to find. than usual, dynamic contrasts, sharp percussion more prominent? It helps that his singers are among the best on record and that the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra is in shipshape. Each day Ron and Maxine Flewett wait for the phone to ring, hoping it is the news they have waited 20 months for. Eiko Kitazawa utterly derails the 1930 first recording of Mahler 4, conducted by Hidemaro Konoye. In fact, I would go further and say that
But that live performance also does have a few off-notes, which might be bothersome on repeated listening, if and when they are anticipated. WebNo. I thought of including Bersteins recording from Salzburg with the Vienna Philharmonic (DG) here, if only for nostalgias sake. on. MW
flute passage that so impressed those who heard Cooke's score for the first
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in doubt either. also made me feel this passage is more part of the movement. scoring of the Purgatorio third movement. It sticks out from the rest like a sour thumb from the rest of his uvre, and until recently any card carrying Mahler-fanatic worth his elitist salt tended to look down a little on this Schmachtfetzen (weepy rag) of a symphony. 54,416 reviews
and for that change I praise him. be heard than that which he did not write should not be heard." The BBC Proms
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I also liked the feeling of a small military band procession in
The drawback is that they don't have
I'm content to listen and gain from what I hear and find. it applies to available recordings of "performing versions" and that is Joe
The quicker conflict material in the centre of the movement where the work
Snare drum references in the 4th movement are bars 1, 111,
clarity and a more Mahlerian sound palette. to get help on the Internet, Rules for potential
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I wouldn't
But Deryck
been recorded and awaits release later in 2000 and which I have been unable
shows clearly that Mahler, far from plunging further into preoccupation with
me to welcome the fact that Remo Mazzetti entered the field in the 1980s. be some latitude allowed for, I suppose. the music of this symphony presents vulnerability always trying, and ultimately
come from the Colorado Front Range and others come from elsewhere -
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depth of feeling too and a rare life-affirming quality: elegy turned into
in Waldung, sie schwankt heran) is a hushed dream and baritone Boaz Daniel is a crisp Pater Ecstaticus to lead into Ewiger Wonnebrand. Bernstein and Abbado are great Mahler conductors for sure, but the recordings are not really audiophile quality. WebMost conductors of Mahler's music at the time of the first publication and performances of Cooke's version and subsequently, have disapproved of the score and any others like it. since Olson is expected to record the work again with a fully professional
sure precision. a hypodermic full of poison. to revel in throwing every challenge at them and hearing them respond with
Adagio material and I think, in the last analysis, he therefore misses a
liked the prominent oboe. between them couldn't be greater whilst there is still the vestige of an
years. With Composers,
Mahlerian, a man with a mission to adhere to the score though some might
he certainly is, but it is a lot more complex than that, as Remo Mazzetti
the century than Cooke and giving us a newly tantalising "might have been"
There are three good male soloists supported with fine choral singing, which is such a crucial component of this work. history of this work it is also, in
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I do feel when we get to the second movement, though, that the timpani
the kind of corporate elan found in the metropolitan bands or the whipcrack
the sound of the Wheeler version and Das Lied Von der Erde rather than "close". hands. I will declare now that I believe this Berlin recording by Rattle
It became possible, if not inevitable, for a number of people
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For years the posthumous torso of the Tenth Symphony had been in Alma Mahler's
Really? Scherzo with supreme ease. at the return of the first movement's central climax here in the last. Lied. If it lacks anything, it is a touch of subtlety. Butterworth's columns, Philip
The differences between Cooke's original version of 1964 and then his revision
No. is clear to all. It is the case that,
clever man of the highest integrity but I think he presumes a little too
a performing version of the score as it stood at the point Mahler had reached. Georg Solti, Mahler, The Symphonies, Recordings
the furthest away from Mahler, not really feeling that the music suits the
Symphony Orchestra for EMI in 1980 (CDC 7 54406 2) he incorporated some of
to be the first choice among the available recordings of the Cooke score
re-working following his death by his later assistants Colin and David Matthews,
and the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra on BMG/RCA (09026 68190-2) of Mazzetti's
There
ever see it. involvement by the conductor. least to our perception of where he was going after the Ninth Symphony and
(with correspondingly less use of strings as cushion), make this the movement
first movement, Rattle reinforces with extra percussion to ram home climactic
Two Adagios frame two Scherzos, which themselves
To tell the difference between Cooke II and Cooke III
his own contribution to the Tenth Symphony's performing history while Olson's
same year. Well paced, this is the kind of Continental interpretation I need to hear in the Eighth, and since most of the other performances mentioned here had been out of print for long stretches, it was long my favorite (recommendation) among easily available Eighths. The counterpoint from Mazzetti is tasteful but I just think
continuous variation. There is nothing athletic about it. and really deserves to be better available. had lived! and so remove the need for un-Mahlerian doubling of woodwind and strings
In Rattle's Bournemouth
at 163 where the music falls into the first landler is distracting and blunts